That's different. You aren't worried about a bruised ego.Quote:
Originally Posted by fastgti69
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That's different. You aren't worried about a bruised ego.Quote:
Originally Posted by fastgti69
I'm shocked you wouldn't post a dyno. No one is going to shy away from the race because of it.
Shocker a thread about an event becomes about one car again. WHO CARES if his car ran or didn't. Honestly the car was insignificant at the event, it made no waves, they had the hood open all day, barely anyone even went over and looked at it. Why? Because it didn't run so it didn't get any attention, an Evo running 180+ got way more attention. Does this mean the car wont run 180, or is less exciting than an Evo, no. It just means it didn't do anything at that event so no one had a reason to care, how about we talk about some of the cars trapping 225+MPH in the half mile, and get away from the car that didn't even run. When his car runs, then we can have a discussion about it
Why would Gintani bring a car to an event that they knew wasn't ready ( not shifting correctly ) . Did they not test drive it before arriving? I don't understand that logic in the slightest, especially your car which people will yap about.
Amen!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony@VargasTurboTech
Certainly seems like the politics matter at these events more than the results. I guess that's just what comes with people who dump this much money into their cars, the egos get totally out of control and it's extremely obnoxious as a fellow enthusiast.
Crazy thought: Who cares what Sticky's car trapped? Who cares that it's not ready yet? Why should that be a matter of intrigue or one-upping, it's lame. His car will be ready when it's ready, everyone is wasting their breath in the meantime whining and gossiping about it. If it ends up breaking records, that's awesome. If it ends up never running, all of your lives will continue on as normal.
And at 24 pounds with a dual clutch it will be quicker than any N54 on earth, so i'm not sure why that's something anyone is stressing over.
This shit gets old. @Sticky would highly encourage you to setup your own events, focused on the novel concept of people showing up to have fun and enjoy the company of other enthusiasts. Doesn't need to be this contrived for-profit enterprise that turns into a pissing contest. Clearly, that is what Shift S3ctor has become. A battle of egos and bystanders.
Sparknotes: Someones car is always faster than yours. People need to stop crying about other people's cars, and focus more on what they're accomplishing.
I agree with most of what you said except this. These are car races for people to try to go faster than the next guy. If you looked up the definition of "pissing contest" in the dictionary it would most likely have two guy arguing over who's car is faster. I have no problem with the event, I have problem with this thread being taken over by a car no one cared about that didn't even run.Quote:
Originally Posted by 135pats
Fair enough. Just seems like it's the events that always catalyze this nonsense. People who don't attend, aren't involved with the platform, and aren't making anything in the zipcode of the power levels being applied are whining about someone else's car? That's asinine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony@VargasTurboTech
Look i'm sure I could find some LS project out there that's shooting for WR power, and has taken a long time to get ready. I could start posting and bitching about its progress, but I don't. Because it's not my car.
It's not a one-way street, a lot of people contribute to this BS. I'm not blaming one person. I don't understand why we can't just appreciate fast BMWs, and wish people well who are trying to make them faster. That's why we're here, right? Who gives a damn who is the fastest - I can say with 200% certainty it isn't anyone on this forum. There is ALWAYS a bigger dog.
For the most part, I would agree with you. But what has to be understood is how much blabbing is constantly done about this car. How its going to change the world. But yet it is 90% talking and 10% action. Its always thrown into N54 threads, and anything else that talks anything close to another BMW being the best. So at some point, I think people are just tired of the blabbing and just want to see results. Its now been so long that its just annoying to hear. You have guys that run their mouths a lot about their cars, but they actually show up consistently. So its a balance of talk and action. I've never seen anyone boast so much about a car that barely sees the road. Shut up already. I guess its an ego thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by 135pats
Some people just need to get laid.
Its all because of what people have already said in this thread. I'm sure no one looked at the car during the event bc no one has seen it run and most know the story behind it. This car was being built before I even joined this forum. There has been lots of hype, talk, whatever you want to call it. Unfortunately, whhen you have a high profile project, it gets a lot of attention, not all of it is good. In this case, over the last 3 years, its gotten worse. If its done then post the info, if its not, then its not but I personally want to see it succeed because it shows what can be done with this s65 platform. There is a time though, when facts are facts and the towel needs to be thrown in on the project.
Also..... news flash, these roll race events are all the rage these days and there is a ton of ego's/political agenda's along with them. They give a chance for people to settle grudge matches and show off what thier car can do. They also give a chance for vendors to show thier products off and at times it creates drama. There is always a winner and loser, no one likes to be the loser, especially on that public stage. In the end though, it is good for the community/industry because it drives sales, makes people want to get faster, and the industry continues to grow. Also, this hopefully takes illegal street racing away and makes it safer for everyone.
Doesn't matter what anyone does, fanboys on youtube/facebook will still reply "This car is slow, AMS alpha omega gtr izz da bestttt!"
Turbo+BMW V8=win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sticky
I guess I just don't take this as seriously as some others do. If anyone thinks the amount of money they've dumped into their car reflects their importance or self-worth, i'm laughing at them right now. Again, there are cars out there that would TROUNCE the winner of this event, or any of these roll events. So it's all relative, which people again either don't seem to understand or refuse to acknowledge. The $100K you've dumped into your AMS GTR to puff your chest out is cool, until it gets left behind by the same LS-based platforms that have been about that life for decades now.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobS
Some of these people need a serious ego check, is my point. It's a car for god's sake. Of course no one likes to lose, i'm in one of the most competitive, bottom-line niche industries in the country. Doesn't mean I bitch, moan, stir the pot, and speculate every opportunity I get.
I agree that on the whole, it's positive for the community at large. But damn, it gets annoying to read about.
When Sticky's car is ready, it's ready. Until then, people need to calm le fuck down.
None of this is directed at you obviously, please don't take it wrong.
Sorry, I thought Sticky had TT kit installed. Nevertheless, 24 psi is freekin awesome. And talking about races, the Moscow mile is tits.
While I do find a lot of the comments regarding this type of racing in general and this event in particular interesting and very much agree that the high end $100k plus builds are very much a contest of who's got the bigger wallet, (the real respect should go to the engineers and mechanics behind the scenes) this thread derailed pretty quickly. Especially as a moderator sticky shouldn't have gotten defensive and turned it into a thread about his car.
I also agree with the sentiment that these events are generally good, they further development, encourage the pushing of platforms as well as provide a safer alternative to highway racing and are really the only venue where a car with 1000+ hp is actually useful. However, personally as a spectator I found the event boring and unorganized. Especially without a dog in the fight it really was like watching a pissing match that felt very irrelevant to the average car enthusiast. I would be very excited to attend and participate in an event like what sticky seems to be planning that featured more sub 1000hp cars, privateers, average enthusiast type of builds, cars that are driven on the street regularly and get to the event under their own power.
Alright so who's going to be at NFZ? I may still be there with my dying transmission and race you with 23psi :)
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by 135pats
It's people like you that are the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by B00stGeek
I didn't bring it up. Again, others did.
Just don't worry about it. Just be the bystander you are.
Are you kidding me here Bob?Quote:
Originally Posted by bobS
This car at 18 pounds of boost destroyed everything it ran against and won this god forsaken event. The car is done.
The people talking in this thread don't even have any trophies from winning it. I do.
Everyone calm the fuck down and let me worry about my own car.
Don't even go there with me just run your sales account. I didn't bring up my car, others did. Read the damn thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sales@vargasturbotech
Trolls come in and they troll.
Just mind your own business.
you are the problem buddy! Everyone knows it. I'll be the bystander that drives his cars at leisure. You continue to be you who ever knows best. Without a car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sticky
Yeah man, I'm the problem. I'm the person who instead of saying of saying good luck or trying to raise the bar continually tries to put others down. Oh wait, that's you.Quote:
Originally Posted by B00stGeek
And for what? OMG trying out a new custom deep basket clutch setup that will only benefit everyone with a BMW DCT? Including the new M cars? How horrible of me. How blatantly evil!
Look at all you bitter and negative people. It's hilarious to me. It's a car being built to the highest level BMW performance will allow. Instead of pushing things forward, weak minds always want to pull back.
What are you scared of? That it will do exactly what I said it will?
MY CAR RUNS. IT'S WON THE EVENT. YOU HAVEN'T.
You want to race? Let's race. Let's see you talk then.
The only way to solve this is you two after 4th period out behind the tether ball courts. Loser can't sit in the cafeteria for a weekQuote:
Originally Posted by Sticky
This guy is a douche. Entertaining for the most part but I think everyone will agree that he gets really tiring. Hmmm, one person argues with the majority but thinks each person he argues with is the problem. Yea. That makes since.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony@VargasTurboTech